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CEAA January 2009 Meeting Summary

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COMMITTEE ON ENGINEERING ACCREDITATION ACTIVITIES (CEAA) 

16-17 JANUARY 2009
JW MARRIOTT, STARR PASS RESORT & SPA
TUCSON, ARIZONA

MEETING SUMMARY

This Meeting Summary was approved during the 18-19 July 2009 CEAA Meeting.

1.    Call to Order and Introductions - Tredennick
Nick called the meeting to order at 4:00pm. See Summary Attachment #1 for attendance listing.

2.     Review and Adoption of Agenda – Tredennick
The agenda was amended to add a few topics. The revised agenda was approved. 

3.     Approval of July 2008 Meeting Summary / Action Register – Tredennick
A Motion was made and approved to accept the July 2008 Meeting Summary, (Agenda Attachment #2). The committee reviewed the action register. Vance McCollough reported on the status of the CEAA website. The site is currently being revised.

4.     Awards Report – Dugan
Joanne Dugan, Chair of the CEAA Awards Subcommittee, reported on the Awards winners for 2008. She said the committee would also develop nominations for 2009.

5.     Election of CEAA / EAC Appointments and Re-Appointments – White
Sam White, Chair of the CEAA Nominating Committee, presented the slate of existing CEAA members and officers eligible for reappointment, (Agenda Attachment #3). A Motion was made to reappoint all eligible CEAA members for an additional one-year term. The Motion was approved.

During Executive Session, the committee elected the following as new CEAA members, (Action Item #1):

  • Richard Lilley
  • H. Bryan Riley
  • Noel Schulz
  • Victor Nelson (Alternate Member)

The CEAA Nominations Process will be revised to include the election of Alternate Members, (Action Item #2).

6.     Program Evaluator Education Report – Meredith
John Meredith, Chair of the CEAA Training Subcommittee, gave a presentation on the responsibilities of that subcommittee, (Agenda Attachment #6). His presentation covered:

  • Membership of the Training Subcommittee
  • Work with the Mentoring Subcommittee
  • On-Line PEV Training Program

7.     Program Evaluator Extensions – Daniels
Pat Daniels, CEAA Program Evaluator Assignment Coordinator, reviewed the list of existing PEVs whose terms expire in 2009, (Agenda Attachment #4). A Motion was made and approved to accept Pat’s recommendations for PEV term extensions, (Action Item #3).

8.     Selection of IEEE EAC Program Evaluators – Tredennick
During Executive Session, the committee discussed and the PEV applicant pool and selected new IEEE EAC PEVs. The list of selected PEV applicants will be presented to the APC for approval during their February 2009 Meeting, (Combined with above - Action Item #3).

The meeting was adjourned at 9:00pm.

The meeting reconvened at 8:00am on Saturday morning.

9.     Visit Assignment Report – Daniels
Pat Daniels discussed the Visit Assignment Report, (Agenda Attachment #5). She spoke about:

  • The number of accreditation visits expected in 2009-10
  • Plans to track institutional history to better estimate the number of future visits                    

10.   Continuous Improvement: Mentoring - Review, Visits and Evaluations for the 2008-09 Cycle - Rover / Soma
Mani Soma and Diane Rover, Co-Chairs of the CEAA Mentoring Subcommittee, presented a Mentoring Report, (Summary Attachment #2).Their report detailed:

  • Statistics for the 2008-09 cycle
  • Committee records on the CEAA Yahoo site
  • Process to appoint and pair mentors
  • Evaluation of PEV mentees.

The CEAA Mentoring Report will be provided to the ABET EAC Training Committee, (Action Item #4). Mani will collect comments from the mentors and prepare a report for John Meredith to assist in training plans for 2009, (Action Item #5).

11.  Mentoring Report  - Rover / Soma  
Mani Soma reviewed the mentoring spreadsheet, (Summary Attachment #3), where he spoke about specific cases in Executive Session. The committee discussed cases which would be flagged to discuss during the EAC Caucus in July. Mani gave staff a list of Mentors for the newly selected PEVs. Staff will assign four new PEVs to each of the five volunteer mentors, (Action Item #6).

12.   Standards – Dodd
Curtis Dodd, CEAA Liaison to the EAB Standards Committee, reported on current standards committee activities. He spoke about the ways that schools can use IEEE standards and the grant program for students. It was decided that since Standards is a permanent EAB committee, it is no longer necessary to report on standards activities at CEAA meetings.

13.   Non-Domestic Program Evaluators
The committee discussed the issue of non-domestic PEVs and the following issues were raised:

  • Newly selected non-domestic PEVs must be informed that all their travel expenses may not be covered by ABET, (Action Item #7)
  • Some CEAA members voiced concerns about supporting visits to non-domestic institutions that do not support human rights issues
  • APC needs to develop a mutually acceptable solution for visits in 2009-10, (this will be discussed during the February 2009 APC Meeting). The APC will also examine the CEAA / CGAA Charters and the possible overlap of duties within both committees, (Action Item #8)

14.   Replacement of Ken Cooper on ABET Criteria Committee
This past year, Chairs of the ABET EAC Subcommittees invited new commission members to decide which EAC committee they would like to work on. It was suggested that the Ken Cooper contact the Chair of the ABET EAC Criteria Committee, suggesting John Orr as a replacement for Ken as a member of the ABET Criteria Committee, (Action Item #9).

15.   Questions for ECEDHA Open Forum
During a discussion on this topic, the committee agreed to continue the practice of providing ECEDHA with questions to poll their members on during their open forum session. Chuck Hickman will work with John Meredith to develop questions for this year’s ECEDHA meeting, (Action Item #10).

16.   Software Engineering Criteria “Basic Science and Math” – Dugan
Joanne Dugan suggested this topic and gave a presentation, (Summary Attachment #5). She explained that the criteria are not clear with respect to the requirement for "basic science" in Criteria 5.  It's not clear what "basic science" means and how a PEV will interpret it.  That means that an institution/program can be surprised during a visit to learn that their interpretation of "basic science" differs from the PEV interpretation.

Joanne will write a note to Ken Cooper and Don Bagert (who serve on the EAC criteria committee) asking them to solve this problem in the general criteria. She will also work with the newly constituted "CEAA criteria committee" to suggest changes to the program criteria for electrical & computer engineering program criteria and software engineering criteria.  These changes will be unnecessary if the EAC Criteria Committee solves this problem, (Action Item #11).

The members of the CEAA criteria committee are Joanne Dugan, Joe Hughes, Jim McDonald (who is also on CSAB), John Orr, John Vian and Curtis Dodd.

17.    Should IEEE Modify its Program Criteria to Require Calculus-Based Physics in EE and CpE Programs?                                                           

The committee discussed this agenda topic, (Agenda Attachment #10), which was submitted by Ed Jones. The definition of physics needs to be expanded, but the committee decided that no action would be taken on this topic.

18.   Dual Level Accreditation Issues – Processes
The committee discussed how a dual-level accreditation visit would be handled. Many questions were brought up on this topics and it was decided that ABET needs to develop the process.

19.   Miscellaneous
The following topics were briefly discussed:

  • CEAA Processes and Process Documentation – the committee discussed CEAA processes and areas that could be improved and streamlined. Important functions of the CEAA that need to be examined further are the selection and mentoring of PEVs and the program criteria.

  • Recruitment of PEVs from Industry and Government – John Meredith suggested that someone in the group write an article for publication which extols the virtues of becoming a program evaluator. It was decided that an “elevator speech” be developed and Chuck Hickman, Ken Cooper, John Meredith and others will work on this topic.

  • Harmonized Criteria – the harmonized criteria is out for comment and will be reviewed in July. For the second set of changes to the criteria, there is a 2-year review period. This topic needs to be discussed further before the July summer commission meetings. The group will have a conference call before July to see if the CEAA wants to make a formal response, which would need APC and EAB approval.

  • Boeing’s Ranking of Engineering Colleges – John Vian brought up this topic and advised that institutions on Boeing’s list have the option of sharing their findings or not.

 

The meeting was adjourned at 3:21PM.

 

 

 

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